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男爵府

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發表於 12-1-3 19:30 |只看該作者
工人介紹朋友黎做 想direct hire. 如果佢唔想比介紹費agent 情願自己比機票錢黎香港得嗎?另外direct hire要入contract 點比工人簽名?




大宅

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發表於 12-1-3 21:40 |只看該作者
heismama 發表於 12-1-3 19:30
工人介紹朋友黎做 想direct hire. 如果佢唔想比介紹費agent 情願自己比機票錢黎香港得嗎?另外direct hire ...

It is better to go through agent for the process - the contract has to be notarized by the Ph Consulate and approved by Immigration. It may not be possible to do without agent for first time comer - training and insurance...

Would like to share my experience. I direct hired a bun bun few months ago by referal. She didn't have to pay any fee. I paid all the agent fee for processing, medical check, air ticket... totalling about 5k. Her cost of coming is minimal or close to zero. It seems that she came here for fun. She told me of heavy workload but she just did the cleansing part. She decided to go back home after 2 months for missing her family. My case is she didn't have to pay and she was not sincere enough to make up her mind to work. She has to adjust the lifestyle here for her as first time comer. Since she didn't have any cost, it is easier for her to drop without making any attempt to try.


子爵府

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發表於 12-1-18 23:10 |只看該作者
回覆 spiderlily 的帖子

I have to same experience to direct hire a girl and she want to go back home after worked for one week. I wonder why employer have to bare the agency cost and the maid no need to pay for any charges. Is there any rules telling the employer is fully responsible for the direct hire cost ?


大宅

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發表於 12-1-18 23:25 |只看該作者
回覆 kukukoo 的帖子


The cost paid by the employer is the handling charges in respect of the process. The helper does not have to pay because she finds the employer herself, not via the agent and hence the agent cannot charge fee except a small amount handling charges.

You can have an agreement with the helper on the split of cost before hiring her.

My experience was if she didnt pay, she would not think as seriously as she had to pay before she came. For her, there is nothing to lose. Mine went down already and is going to visit Ocean Park and Disneyland this week (what I was told).




子爵府

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發表於 12-1-19 07:32 |只看該作者

回覆:spiderlily 的帖子

Spiderlily

未簽約時,我是有同工人解釋大家一人一半手續費才一起到代理處做文件,現在他反口話他是 direct hire no need to pay any and ask me to refund her 。究竟法例有無話 direct hire 是employer responsible or 口頭 confirm to share is valid?




大宅

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發表於 12-1-19 08:31 |只看該作者
回覆 kukukoo 的帖子


It seems there is no black and white on this as to the amount of agency fee being charged on them, other than the fees stated on the employment contract e.g. consulate charges, visa fee... .

You can tell her to ask the agent to refund. This is the amount of handling fee charged by the agent.

One thing you may have to bear in mind is how she paid you on this. If she paid by deduction in her wage, you may expose yourself to risk or disputes as employers are not allowed to make deduction from the wages except otherwise specify in the Labour Ordinance.

You may argue that you have lent to her and now she repaid.

Nowadays, the helpers know more than us about Labour ordinances and their rights. We need to catch up.





男爵府

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發表於 12-1-19 14:33 |只看該作者
我之前試過做direct hire, 點知佢做左12日就resign, 奉勸吾好自己比哂錢,因為佢地吾使比錢,鐘意走就走,你又要比air ticket錢。


洋房

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發表於 12-1-19 14:54 |只看該作者
回覆 heismama 的帖子

印同BUN 聽講都吾得~ 啃錢系好, 但系關於你自己貼身問題就奉勸下各下啦 , 即系等於續contract 甘,1200 同 2500 的分別,就在於agency 跟得好吾好的分別,無事就無事, 有事就大獲無人幫,還要受氣呢! 請三C ! :D


複式洋房

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發表於 12-1-19 15:09 |只看該作者
我都係要direct hire,而+ 搵緊agent 。當然有可能會發生以上問題,但都係信介紹人同睇清楚新bun bun 個背景先請。
我將會晌發人工後,叫bun bun 比回$1000當share fee but contract 完後會退回$1000 給他,買個保險


大宅

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發表於 12-1-19 16:32 |只看該作者
我之前都有唸個direct hire, 我問過兩個agents, 一個係個bun比既,另一個係朋友用開既agent. 個bun比我個agent要我比晒所以錢, 四千幾. 朋友個agent就話我比二千,個bun比番佢地菲果邊agent錢,大約一個月.

不過最後我無請到. 我同大家都有同一個唸法,就係若果個BUN唔好,又無人跟,仲要佢隨時走人都唔會有損失. 但係亦有另外,我個朋友direct hire咗個暫時唔錯既bun,比咗三千幾, 佢話佢個BUN可能自己比咗少少.


複式洋房

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發表於 12-1-19 17:36 |只看該作者
Love_BB123 發表於 12-1-19 16:32
我之前都有唸個direct hire, 我問過兩個agents, 一個係個bun比既,另一個係朋友用開既agent. 個bun比我個age ...
c姐,可否給我agent contact ,因為我仲未搵到agent


侯爵府

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發表於 12-1-19 17:37 |只看該作者
Direct hire 我要俾多d agent 錢,因為Agency 收唔到姐姐介紹費 (成萬幾蚊港紙),我又無 follow-up service,無得換人,好唔抵。

最後我叫舊工人 (新姐姐嘅家姐) 俾番個差額我,至少佢唔係嚟免費旅遊。


侯爵府

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發表於 12-1-19 17:40 |只看該作者
回覆 heismama 的帖子

BTW, 個工人仲要去上堂 etc (即係俾錢嗰個哀政府),個新姐姐識咩?


大宅

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發表於 12-1-19 18:30 |只看該作者

direct hire問題

我想問agent費可唔可以各俾一半?我怕佢黎旅行。




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