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別墅

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回覆 彥彥媽咪 的帖子

彥媽, 聽你一席話, 真使我茅塞頓開...有D想喊...
語塞...anyway, thank you so much!!!


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彥媽, 我又有另一個問題, 你對大細仔有什麼看法, 即是你認為12月出生的細仔在學習階段初期(即幼稚園階段)是否會因能力認知較差...跟大仔比下去而自信心變弱? 3年幼稚園階段后會否變成被動和缺乏自信?
這是我們夫婦二人最大的分歧...
請賜教, 謝!


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發表於 12-5-28 14:08 |只看該作者
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undonchau:

即是你認為12月出生的細仔在學習階段初期(即幼稚園階段)是否會因能力認知較差...跟大仔比下去而自信心變弱?

首先, how did you know your son will be "比下去", 難道依家已經係? 若然未係, 點解你自己會先咁睇? 建議你先問你自己 : 你阿仔 so far 學習能力如何先? 係唔係跟唔到丫...唔係既話, 做細仔冇問題 bor, 但若然你見佢有d 地方都真係力有不逮時, 咁佢轉去做大仔既話, d 功課對佢黎講易上手左都唔係一件壞事丫

3年幼稚園階段后會否變成被動和缺乏自信?
==> 如上所言, 做得到就唔會冇自信, 做唔到就會...so , 你阿仔個 case 係咩丫, you should know better than I do.


別墅

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發表於 12-6-6 00:07 |只看該作者
彥彥媽媽,

Wow! really happy to find you here! have not visited BK for a long time and even when I dropped by I cannot locate you...

Happy that I can finally find you...

Firstly need to say thank you to you for your tips and advice to me three years ago...my elder daughter will be in P1 in the coming Sept.

I have something to consult you again...

Younger brother just got CWB LLK, SKH, SPK and Raimondi KG offer; I am struggling to choose which one for him...as as all mothers thought...I really want to skip the lucky draw. I like SPK very much but not sure if that is good (over the other KG in hand) for a boy.

My elder daughter will be in a DSS in coming Sept. So cannot help younger brother.

Thanks for your tips.


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發表於 12-6-12 00:17 |只看該作者
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kamanip:

Welcome back!

Firstly need to say thank you to you for your tips and advice to me three years ago...my elder daughter will be in P1 in the coming Sept.
==>Time flies, and we are getting old, aren't we? ...haha~

Younger brother just got CWB LLK, SKH, SPK and Raimondi KG offer; I am struggling to choose which one for him...as as all mothers thought...I really want to skip the lucky draw. I like SPK very much but not sure if that is good (over the other KG in hand) for a boy.
==> 先唔講其他, 就 SPK 而言, 我睇唔到如果入佢唔係為一條龍直升既話, 入佢幼稚園有咩優勢, 佢都一間普通既幼稚園而已 in this case, 因此, 你個係仔既話, 入去做咩? 再者, 入面幼稚園係女多過男, 個人感覺, 為上小學都話 je, otherwise 我喜歡較 balance 既男女比例, 你讓個機會d女仔把啦~

要去, 去 Raimondi la~ if you ask me to choose



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發表於 12-6-17 23:27 |只看該作者
Dear Yin Ma,

Thanks!

You meant you will also choose Raimondi over SKH?

Thanks again!


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發表於 12-6-20 15:05 |只看該作者
kamanip 發表於 12-6-17 23:27
Dear Yin Ma,

Thanks!

yes


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發表於 12-7-11 16:28 |只看該作者
yin ma, Hi....I really like you posts as you are very objective and helpful.

My kid is now stuying in Munsang kg and he is doing well. What do you think of the primary session? Do you know anone stuying there? My only concern is the teachers are, as I heard, not really caring and nice and will discrimated to those less smart kids......

By the way, what do think of YW primary school, other its fame , is it really as good as it claims? What do you think of letting your son to study in a boys' school? Do you worry about the discipline?

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.


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發表於 12-7-11 16:53 |只看該作者
One more question, what do you think of 沙呂小??


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本帖最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 12-7-14 23:55 編輯

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MSBOY:

yin ma, Hi....I really like you posts as you are very objective and helpful.
你好你好, 先歡迎你光臨~~~ :)

My kid is now stuying in Munsang kg and he is doing well. What do you think of the primary session? Do you know anone stuying there? My only concern is the teachers are, as I heard, not really caring and nice and will discrimated to those less smart kids......
==>民生以前有朋友既細路係樹讀, 但早幾年我搬左過海之後又少聯絡了, 以前都成日有人問我民生, 因為大中彥個時係培正丫嘛...呵呵....出面唔係十個有九個題目都係 "培正 vs 民生" 既咩...haha~

你問我佢小學點? 你番佢幼稚園, 你有冇見到? 大家叫做同一校舍, 出出入入總有印象? 係既話, 係咪你自己答呢個問題仲好d? 若要問我知既, 我只會講...間間有名既學校都有類似情況 (not really caring and nice and will discrimated to those less smart kids) 架啦, 但我 let me try to use 另一角度去講...即係, 當你係一間打開門唔憂冇人讀既情況下, 佢一班一定收足人, 即係 30 人起碼, 咁比起一間一班 25 人 or even fewer 既學校而言, 佢真係都幾難去好 "caring" 的, 應講係掉番轉, 你有問題揾佢, 佢一定會應你, 但就一定唔駛期望老師會眼都唔眨咁 gup 住個細路, 亦唔會三日一電 (係你先驚啦, 一定係衰野先會打比你, 呵呵) 也唔會成日噓寒問暖架啦, 你當唔當呢d 係 "唔 caring and nice" ? 係既話, then I will say, yes, 佢地係唔 caring and nice, 但因為人人對呢樣野既 need 唔同, 去得小學, 學校會期望小朋友既自理能力又再高一級 (比 KG) , 所以真係唔會人人問長問短的, 上到中學更加你唔出聲可能真係當你隱形添 ga wor, 係你有野問要自己出聲咁囉....

老師 team 就真係唔好 expect 係 18/22 歲個隻, 年紀都係比較成熟 ga la..因此, 有一定既 "老師台型" 都唔出奇, but afterall, 佢地都係想教好學生的, 呢點你又唔駛 too worry, 另外你話會 "discriminate less smart kids" - well...又係睇你點睇, "favouritism" 呢....就間間學校都有 ga la..父母好多時都會啦, 兩個細路既話, 能做到善解人意, 文靜乖巧, 聽聽話話既....係呢個世界上點都一定比一個頂心頂肺, 駁咀駁舌, 又或講極唔明既人惹人憐愛多d 既, 你同意嗎? 但咁樣都唔一定代表你唔理 less smart 個個 ge, 只係的而且確, 叻d 個d 學校係會 put more resources on them, 咁係肯定的, 亦唔 only at 民生, 以前培正又好, 其他名唔名既學校都好, 大人既世界又好, 都係 very common 的, 所以, 你唔駛太擔心會有此情況丫, 倒不如努力教好小朋友, 成為老師留意關注既一群咪仲實際? 除非你小朋友真係拉牛上樹, 牛皮燈籠個隻, 咁就都有機會比說話你聽下, otherwise , 一切都係正常下進行, 唔會有太大 difference ge...

By the way, what do think of YW primary school, other its fame , is it really as good as it claims?
==>你問我, 我真係話"唔係", 不過只敢係呢樹講, 呵呵, 唔係的話, 出親去講, 實比人圍攻, 打到落花流水... 我話佢 "唔係" 係因為我信 nothing is magic, 小朋友本身先係 the key, of course YW有佢既優點, 只係我唔認為佢既優點, 只係佢身上有, 而其他學校冇咁啦, 但因為 snoopy 校長既魅力, 當然有大把 fans 一齊去幫手營造出一個學校想見到既學生同學習環境的, 再者, 佢之所以吸引, 唔只係因為個校長, 有得直升英華中學先係最吸引既地方, 英華中學作為香港 22 間傳統名校之一既話, 家長當然有期望, 自然令小學都水漲船高的, 再加上入得去既都係中產家庭多, 要做到呢一點, 我唔認會太困難 then

What do you think of letting your son to study in a boys' school? Do you worry about the discipline?
==>個人而言, 我會 prefer 男女校, 而唔會首選單性學校, 唔係因為怕d 仔曳, 係我認為我想阿仔可以係一個 natural environment 樹大, 去學社交 (有男有女係一個 "natural environment" in my eyes, 單性學校係我眼中係一個 "controlled environment" 似 science class 個d control experiment 咁), 當我知道個世界係根本就係有男有女既話, 我會希望我小朋友見到一d 佢平時出街都就係見到既野, 包括人同糾紛都得, 咁佢就可以透過 daily interaction 去學習與人相處既技巧, 但我強調, 我並不排斥單性學校, 話哂成績好個d, 你留意下丫, 多數都係唔係男校就係女校, 尤其中學, right? 所以你俾我揀, 係, 我係會先揀男女校, 但若我個區真係冇, 又或個d 男女校都唔掂既, 咁我當然都會先揀單性學校的

Discipline 我又唔太擔心, 家長既教導係可以有影響力的, 所以我唔會因為 discipline 去揀 or 唔揀一間單性學校, 反而會因為我上面講既去決定揀唔揀單性學校就真

但請留意, 上面講既代表我 only, 唔一定岩你的.

One more question, what do you think of 沙呂小??
==>係區內一間十分搶手既小學之一, 我冇直接既朋友係入面讀, 所以不敢妄評

Hope I can answer your questions. :)




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發表於 12-7-16 12:15 |只看該作者
回覆 彥彥媽咪 的帖子

thank you yin Ma for your detailed reply, you really have insight!!!!!

it seems that you still have something to say about YW.....because you said :"then......."right?

Please continue your comment about this school.



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MSBOY:

冇呀, 冇野補充了, 個 "then" 字係多手打 only.



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發表於 12-7-17 12:52 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 mianyang_99 於 12-7-17 12:52 編輯
彥彥媽咪 發表於 12-7-16 15:34
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MSBOY:


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彥彥媽咪 發表於 12-7-16 15:34
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MSBOY:

thanks again~~

if we just talk about the secondary schools, which one is better in your opinion?
YW college Vs munsang college


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MSBOY:

if we just talk about the secondary schools, which one is better in your opinion?
YW college Vs munsang college

==> 老實講, "好" 呢個字人人睇法唔同, 我心水 define 既 "好" 唔止睇成績的, 所以, 兩間都唔係我心水, 俾我, 我兩間都唔讀 (呵呵, 係咪好大口氣呢...佢地都唔會收我地的) 首先, 先 share some information for you, 你就知我點解有以下結論:

以前我都經歷過 "只想讀私校直資" 既心態, 因為一來嫌自己運氣唔好, 唔會抽到好學校, 二來總認為"同聲同氣" 同番d background 差唔多既人會好d ...所以大彥出世時我都係主力考私校直資, 私校唔係冇讀過, 亦同唔少中產家庭一齊生活過, 我得到唔少體會, 所以我自己得出既結論係, 我依家唔會以直資私校為我首選, 因為我唔喜歡去 train 小朋友去 interview, 我亦唔喜歡整十幾吋厚既 portofolio 先可以得到一個 interview, 也唔 enjoy 要識一百幾十種特異功能先可以有書讀, 因此, 我呢d 細路考親直資私立都一定死直的, 我完全明白, 但....我會問自己, 我著眼小朋友既咩野係我 first priority? 而呢d 野係唔係只有直資私立先會 offer 到比我呢? 最終, 我發現答案係 "唔係", 而今日, 我都好開心見到大彥最終中一派位 (佢剛派完了), 入到佢第一志願既 band 1 school. 咁就夠了, 佢唔係靠自行入, 佢係靠成績派位入, so, see, 依家我明派位制度對於我呢類家長既幫助了

回應番你既問題 : 兩間都唔係我心水學校, 你民生既校網 (即係九龍城) 既中學有更多我可以搏, 係英華中學 (即係深水步) 亦有好多唔錯既 band 1 school, 我有信心令自己細路成為 band 1 group, 所以我唔需要有私校 back up (事實上入得私立直資你先更加要跑得快過人先可以力保不失 ga la...既然係咁, 就更加有能力去考出面既 band 1 school, 唔駛留低), 因此, 我會傾向佢搏官津, 再力爭上淨入 band 1 中學的, 因為入面既人就係乜人都有, 我想佢見唔同既人, 多過同一類人, 仲係同一類同我價值觀唔一樣既人, 轉個角度講, 我地唔岩讀呢類學校 je, 我地入去盞變異形, 哈哈~~費事嚇親人...

但真係只準我二揀一, 咁我揀英華好了 ==> (其實我係唔係唔駛咁長篇大論講上面一大堆廢話, 而就咁打呢句就算係最好既呢..?? )


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彥彥媽咪 發表於 12-7-17 14:02
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MSBOY:

Thanks again for your prompt reply~~

以前我都經歷過 "只想讀私校直資" 既心態, 因為一來嫌自己運氣唔好, 唔會抽到好學校

You have speak out my mind....it seems that is is so very wrong not to chase the DDS/private schools now~~hahha.....


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本帖最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 12-7-17 15:04 編輯

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MSBOY:

Thanks again for your prompt reply~~

以前我都經歷過 "只想讀私校直資" 既心態, 因為一來嫌自己運氣唔好, 唔會抽到好學校

You have speak out my mind....it seems that is is so very wrong not to chase the DDS/private schools now~~hahha.....


==> 要 speak out your mind 有幾難? hehe, 我身邊十個有十個中產家長都係咁講 ga la..所以有時阿 Q d 諗, 你地去哂私立直資 (仲係叻呢堆先考得入 ga ma) 咁好既官津咪少左人同我爭囉, 各取所需, I should encourage you to take 先真啦, hehehe......話時話, 都多得家長們咁緊張子女學業, d 教育界先不斷有 "生意" 做 ga ma ....呵呵....

話已到此, 係你自行決定既時候, 我多講亦無謂, 只係想請都有同此諗法既家長明白..there's no free lunch in the world...唔係買左保險就等於唔會有意外, 我見到既反而係, 你揀得呢類學校, 就要習慣呢類學校既氣氛, 同 align their values. If you can make it, yes, for sure these schools would give you better safety nets.

在我, 我係一個唔易妥協既人, 有d values 我係好堅持的, 我之前亦已討論過一條龍學校既利與弊, 故不想重覆了.

All the best~ :)




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彥彥媽咪 發表於 12-7-17 15:04
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MSBOY:

sometimes i feel very lost . Some of my colleagues ( junior ones with less education) just sent their kids to schools in public housing estate and they could still get into some band one schools ( secondary ones) which makes me so jealous...hahha...I guess they never have the same struggle as we, those so called middle class parent, do when choosing primary schools for their kids....they just leave it to GOD!! hahha....

I feel really headache whenever I think of choosing the primary school for my kid.....there are so many different viewpoint about differnet schools.....hahha....


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本帖最後由 彥彥媽咪 於 12-7-17 16:46 編輯

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MSBOY:

本來真係想收聲的了, 但又見你寫以下呢段野, okok, 又真係俾你搞到有感而發, 不搭訕不行:

sometimes i feel very lost . Some of my colleagues ( junior ones with less education) just sent their kids to schools in public housing estate and they could still get into some band one schools ( secondary ones) which makes me so jealous...hahha...I guess they never have the same struggle as we, those so called middle class parent, do when choosing primary schools for their kids....they just leave it to GOD!! hahha....

==> 若然你真係認為係咁既情況下考得入 band 1 既學生, 佢老豆真係只係 "leave it to GOD", I am sorry, 得罪講句, 你睇野未免流於表面 (或者你只係講笑話就請 accept my apology)...你以為佢地真係中左六合彩咁入? 當然我唔否定六合彩既存在, 就似打工, 都真係眼見有廢柴可以唔駛做野人工都高你幾倍一樣, 但有一點我深信既係, 幸運係一剎那既野, 唔係一世既野, 就算真係有人符碌咁考得入 band 1 (in fact under the govt system 冇得符碌, 考中學係請實力, 計成績, 除非你識人就乜都另計啦), 都要佢坐得暖, 保得住個位先係叻仔架...

因此, 我唔認為住公屋既家長就只可以靠 god 先有個可以入 band 1 學校既仔, 因為讀書成功與否, 唔在於知識既多少, 閣下有留意我早前寫既文章, Knowledge and skills 係可以透過時間學習同累積的, 但讀唔讀到書, sorry , 唔在於 knowledge and skills 而係 attitude, 個人既學習動力, 動機, 態度先係 the key of success, 大家都識講 - 小朋友肯讀既話, 冇話讀唔到的, 依家大家面對既問題係, 細路仔懶, 冇心機, 又或心思放左係另一d 野 (e.g. 打機) 樹咁解啦, 而公屋既一群, 點解d 細路又肯讀? 點解鮮魚行小學都有同學考得入協恩, 仲係自行考入? 唔係因為佢地成績最好, 而係個人既鬥心同態度, 呢點係做任何事成功既關鍵, 若你要我去分析, 我倒不認為呢d 家長係 leave it to GOD, 反而係佢地既 role modelling 令小朋友學懂珍惜, 學懂愛, 以自己既成績去回饋為佢捱到殘既父母

但咁係唔係對對捱到殘既父母都識咁呢? 我又答你唔係, 父母同子女中間既互動好重要, 子女係父母身上感受到既 values 好重要, 即係我地口中既 "識諗", 我唔否認窮既小孩子係比中產既小朋友活得成熟 (當然有d 唔駛諗既會誤入歧途), 因為佢地"不曾擁有" , 自想有個動力去爭取, 人人都明 "知識可以改變命運", 但有多少人懂得運用? 高分低能既學生你又見過幾多? 因為佢地唔同中產, 佢地 no choice, 佢地冇得揀 : 唔得就出國啦, 唔得就私立啦, 唔得就點點點啦......咁係冇 choices 既情況下, 去爭取係佢地唯一既路, 因此, 我係真係見好多家境不佳既小朋友, 佢地唔係讀好學校, 但真係都好規矩, 佢有家教的, 但呢點, 係睇個老豆老母, 而父母識唔識教我認為同有錢 or not 唔一定有必然既關係的. 有時依家中產小朋友面對既問題係, 父母幫佢地安排哂佢既路, 1 歲學乜, 2 歲做乜, 3 歲又要識乜, 5 歲就要考到乜....etc etc...敢問一句, 佢地既目標係邊? 咪又係父母比 only? 但窮既小朋友, 好多時, 好細個已有目標 => 我要食得飽, 我要改善生活...呢d 就係佢讀書既動力, 有目標, 再加埋若遇上有心既老師, 教得其法, 佢地掌握到個竅門時, 我睇唔到點解佢地考唔入 band 1 了.

...I guess they never have the same struggle as we,
==> 係架, 佢地都冇 choice, 有咩得佢 struggle? 但咁唔係仲簡單咩? 因為只得一條路, 自然會諗盡一切辦法去行好呢條路, 鬥志高, 唔易放棄就係他日面對困難都能成功既基石, 中產就係有太多路走, 所以就係會做成 A 唔得就行 B, 你又知 A 真係唔得? 定係只係對自己冇信心, or 唔想去面對一個 challenge only?

I feel really headache whenever I think of choosing the primary school for my kid.....there are so many different viewpoint about differnet schools.....hahha....
==>點都好啦, 仔女係自己既, 父母總有一千個理由去 justify 自己為子女做既野就係最好既野, 做人最緊要係, 無論做任何野都好, 唔好俾自己後悔就得了, 你信係 work 既, 就做, it's just that simple, 結果既野冇人可以預計到架嘛, right? 所有旁邊鶴講既野大可以不理

by the way, 依家你只係揀小學已經咁, 我肯定你到中學應該會訓唔著...哈哈...有時有d 野, 順其自然唔一定係壞事, 考照考, 收咪私校, 唔收就讀官津囉, 唔駛樣樣太刻意的, otherwise 千機算盡, 個細路唔同你合作, 都係得個桔, 所以, 一切唔係在於學校, 係在於個細路, what kind of values are you going to build in for him/her?


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